Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer #9349014 11/nineteen/14 | OP Campfire Oracle Joined: February 2002 Posts: 32,044 | What would you consider minimum vel from your handgun in the 45 Colt with the 270 bandage SWC bullet to hunt deer, with shots coming 50 yards and under? A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Ii Bucks. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: bea175] #9349082 11/19/14 | Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,124 CraigC Campfire Regular | Campfire Regular Joined: December 2013 Posts: 1,124 | | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: CraigC] #9349177 11/19/14 | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,215 GunGeek Bivouac Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 24,215 | +1 I got most iii Feet of penetration on an 1,800lb bull starting a 270 at 900fps from about 7 yards. You'd probably get through and through on a deer broadside with merely 400fps at impact. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Filly for Deer [Re: GunGeek] #9349309 11/19/14 | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,763 DocRocket Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,763 | Remington'south mill 45 Filly LRN standard velocity ammo makes a nominal 750 fps, and I think that'south the most anemic commercially available round on the marketplace. Information technology should perforate deer just fine. Even so, that doesn't mean information technology's the best pick of hunting ammo, IMHO. I wouldn't drop much below 750 fps for hunting, based on some ballistic tests I did with 45 ACP 230 and 250 gr bullets about xiv years ago. Penetration really starts to drop off once you become below 700. "I'one thousand gonna have to science the schit out of this." Marker Watney, Sol 59, Mars | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Filly for Deer [Re: DocRocket] #9349388 11/19/14 | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,978 viking Bivouac 'Bwana | Bivouac 'Bwana Joined: April 2008 Posts: 13,978 | I idea you demand at least 1200 fps for laissez passer throughs. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: Whitworth1] #9349540 11/19/xiv | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 13,121 JOG Campfire 'Bwana | Bivouac 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: thirteen,121 | I thought you need at to the lowest degree 1200 fps for pass throughs. Not for whitetail. Maybe the long way. Forgive me my nonsense, equally I as well forgive the nonsense of those that think they talk sense. Robert Frost | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Filly for Deer [Re: JOG] #9349631 11/nineteen/14 | Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,251 coltfan Bivouac Regular | Bivouac Regular Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,251 | I thought y'all need at least 1200 fps for laissez passer throughs. Not for whitetail. Perhaps the long way. That one made me express mirth out loud, seriously. My secretary thought I had gone basics! | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: JOG] #9349771 11/19/fourteen | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,763 DocRocket Bivouac Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,763 | I thought you lot need at least 1200 fps for pass throughs. Not for whitetail. Perchance the long way. This goes back a few years... A friend of mine was the grandson of an old guy who endemic a rendering plant in rural WI. My friend and I were aficionados of the then-new idea of firing heavy loads in our 45 Colt single action Rugers, and ane dday we met at the rendering plant to shoot some dead horses to test bullet penetration. The horses didn't go far at the chiliad dead, but they were very recently dead when nosotros shot them with our revolvers. Nosotros were shooting 270-330 gr hard cast bullets at velocities upwards of 1350 fps... I hateful, we were pushing Linebaugh's limits. All of our bullets traversed the horses crosswise, whether through breast or guts. Which was disappointing, as we really wanted to recover some bullets and so nosotros could measure out them and weigh them and take photographs of them to testify the superiority of our bullets & ammunition. So we did eventually get some of our bullets to stay in one equus caballus, a big old Clydesdale gelding who was fairly long, the long way, equally long as we shot through the brisket and aimed for the hindquarter. The main event of that exam, at least for my part, was to stop hunting deer with 325 gr difficult cast bullets @1325 fps, which loads were hard on my easily, and apparently a tad more than potent than shooting through a whitetail, crossways or stem-to-stern, required. I've killed several deer since then with 260-270 gr cast bullets toddling along at anywhere from 900 fps to 1100 fps and the deer are no more nor no less dead than those shot with transonic loudenboomers. "I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: DocRocket] #9349833 11/19/14 | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 26,938 Jim in Idaho Bivouac Oracle | Campfire Oracle Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 26,938 | Your feel mirrors John Linebaugh'southward. The cited article is virtually loads for a Smith 25-5 merely these passages seem appropos. "...I have seen my married woman shoot two or three mule deer and about eight antelope now with a .45 Colt. The load she has used almost exclusively for seven years now is a 260 Keith slug at 900 fps out of a 4 three/4" Seville revolver. This will consistently shoot length ways and exit on mule deer and antelope at 100 yards. It kills in my estimation ameliorate than a .270 or .thirty-06 class rifle as information technology acts a lot like an arrow and doesn't excite the animal. They usually prove minor hitting reaction and trot off 20 to 30 yards. By and so they have leaked and then much, they are done. No whistles or bells, merely honest consistent performance. I have used this load on 2 antelope with exacting results. In my early on hunting years I used the same 260 gr Keith at 1,400 fps. out of a dozen antelope and one mule deer I take personally taken I can't see that it stops them one bit better than the 900 fps load." (bold mine) http://www.handloads.com/manufactures/default.asp?id=12 Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle! | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: Jim in Idaho] #9350017 11/nineteen/14 | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 bea175 OP Campfire Oracle | OP Campfire Oracle Joined: February 2002 Posts: 32,044 | I personally have always believed that a difficult cast 350 to 300 gr 45 cal bullet doesn't need all that much vel to penetrate most large game such as deer and elk if major bones aren't hit. A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the concluding time I'thou going to do that for Two Bucks. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: bea175] #9350108 11/19/xiv | Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 15,075 Dillonbuck Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: xv,075 | choose the bullet wisely. I tried a rnfp on a whitetail buck in the lungs. Perhaps I should have just waited after the shot, merely i dont quit if they are still moving. I turned into goat rope that simply ended with a dash dorsum to my rifle. Where we cling to our God and Guns. Betwixt Pittsburgh and Philthy. The Alabama part of Pa! | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Filly for Deer [Re: Jim in Idaho] #9350283 11/19/14 | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,722 SargeMO Bivouac Guide | Campfire Guide Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,722 | I set my lead-bullet working loads up to run 850-900 fps and if it's a SWC load likely to exist used for hunting, 950-1050 fps. There is no uncertainty you tin can kill them with the 270 SAA at 750 fps; but I like a little more velocity as insurance that it will wreck major skeletal structures and still get out. People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: SargeMO] #9350306 11/19/14 | Joined: February 2002 Posts: 32,044 bea175 OP Campfire Oracle | OP Bivouac Oracle Joined: February 2002 Posts: 32,044 | My 45 Ruger and hunting load A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last fourth dimension I'm going to do that for Ii Bucks. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Filly for Deer [Re: Whitworth1] #9350969 11/20/14 | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 26,947 EdM Campfire Oracle | Bivouac Oracle Joined: November 2002 Posts: 26,947 | Astonishing how a fair number of folks don't realize that a good for you young man can probably pizz through a deer. When I moved to Texas and was invited to hunt a number of South Texas ranches with "large" deer about everyone used a 300 Win Magazine with a couple going the 300 UM. Actually? Conduct is the best proof of character. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: EdM] #9351045 11/20/14 | Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,410 Mikewriter Campfire Ranger | Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,410 | I accept only started using a .45 Filly, but shoot 300 - 335gr bullets, hard cast and Barnes mono-metal, out of a .44 mag at 1050 - 1100 fps on feral hogs (that are tougher than the boilerplate whitetail) and just nearly always become complete pass-throughs taking shoulder shots at from 25 to 60 yards. I look my .45 will do too with like bullets and velocities. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: EdM] #9354403 11/21/xiv | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 bea175 OP Bivouac Oracle | OP Campfire Oracle Joined: February 2002 Posts: 32,044 | Nice Porker and taken the right way with a handgun A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'thou going to practise that for Two Bucks. | Re: Minimum Velocity in the 45 Colt for Deer [Re: bea175] #9354954 11/21/14 | Joined: January 2004 Posts: 3,365 jds44 Campfire Guide | Campfire Guide Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,365 | 255 LSWC started @ 1000fps. Probably never even slowed down when it passed through at ~ 30 yards. | | 631 registered members (163bc, 1911a1, 10gaugemag, 10ring1, 1Akshooter, 160user, 75 invisible), ane,761 guests, and 908 spiders. | Cardinal: Admin, Global Modern, Mod | | |
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